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What CIMB Malaysia has not told you, but should


There is no such thing as a bullet proof system in today’s connected world even banking institutions are not spared. When an incident like what has transpired today with CIMB Malaysia comes to light, you would expect the organisations involved to be well prepared to deal with it in the best interest of everyone involved.

But, that’s always easier said than done, and once again we are faced with yet another security incident that is being poorly handled by those who are tasked with protecting the privacy as well as the financial information of their customers.

Before we get down to the nitty-gritty details, this is what CIMB should have told you weeks ago, but even today, after the social media storm that has taken place, they have yet to enforce a mandatory password change for ALL their users. So if you haven’t already done so, do it NOW. Please change your CIMB Clicks password immediately. ‘Encouraging’ is not an option, as they have so gently requested in their FAQ . We also strongly recommend that if you do not conduct overseas online transactions, to disable overseas transaction option for your CIMB Debit Cards. Whenever possible, set your CIMB Debit card transaction limit to the lowest possible value.

We are aware of the other issues related to CIMB Malaysia, but to avoid any overlaps, we will only be looking at the password issue in this post.

That 8 character password

The 8 character issue with CIMB Malaysia’s password is not something new. Frankly speaking, we were able to trace it back all the way to 2011 based on complaints on social media in relation to their constant changing of their password policy.

@CIMB_Assists , did u guys change the length of the password on the login form? It seems now it's limited to 8 characters. I can't login

― Imran Syed Jaafar (@imranjaafar) May 20, 2011

All the passwords i have used with CIMB Clicks Malaysia myself have always been more then 12 characters. Never have i had an 8 character password, but at some point in time, the policy did change and the passwords were limited to 8 characters. Now this in itself is not a simple exercise to do, because even based on the above tweet, when the password length was trimmed down to 8 characters, those with longer passwords were not able to login (without having to change their passwords).

So, CIMB Malaysia, has claimed, that they have once again updated their password policy, and it is now a requirement that the password be between 8-20 characters, and require a combination of letters, numbers and special characters. While it is not specifically mentioned in the FAQ, there is now a mandatory requirement for the new password to contain at least one special character. Why? More on that later.

What CIMB Malaysia has not told you, but should
This particular FAQ, which was only released today confirms that the new policy came into effect on the 18th of November 2018, however, for reasons unknown, CIMB Clicks continued to accept logins from legacy password users. Whatever the reason for a password policy change, it is critical that all users are explicitly informed of the change, and should be compelled to change their passwords to comply with the new policy. MORE: CIMB Clicks May Contain Serious Security Flaws [UPDATE: CIMB Responds] How to change your Password Policy and retain old passwords in 2 minutes

So, when the new password policy came into effect, CIMB Malaysia somehow decided that instead of compelling all users to do a password change to adhere to the new policy, they would instead allow both new and old passwords to co-exist simultaneously. And instead of making massive changes to how their system would allow this to be done securely, they chose a very simple, insecure, and downright nasty way of doing it.

What CIMB Malaysia has not told you, but should
Coding is an artform, and any self respecting coder would not be using this piece of code to check for the passwords to his grandmothers basement, let alone on the front end of a major Online Banking system.

Essentially, what the code does is this.


So, when this code came into effect, even if you had a password of 15 or 20 characters before November 18, 2018, only the first 8 would be need to be correct to gain access to your account. While this does not automatically grant anybody access to your account, it greatly increases the chances of someone who more or less knows your password habits to guess the right password.

Now, if your password was a combination of letters and numbers, it would be harder to crack, but there are a lot of people who use just numbers as their password. How long does it take to crack a 8 character all number password about 5 minutes.

Whats that reCaptcha doing there?

One of the first tell tale signs that something was seriously wrong with CIMB Clicks Malaysia was when they suddenly, without any warning decided to implement a reCaptcha authentication on their site. This of cause was after the CIMB Clicks platform was completely inaccessible for most of Saturday.

What CIMB Malaysia has not told you, but should

Some smaller banks around the world do turn to Google’s reCaptcha to keep away unwanted traffic because its free, and extremely easy to implement, but to say reCaptcha has been implemented to enhance customers’ security is nothing but a blatant lie.

What reCaptcha does is slows down spam bots (and in the case of CIMB Clicks brute force scripts) from hammering their system with millions of queries as it tries every single password combination to get into a customers account.

What CIMB Malaysia has not told you, but should

There are so many more elegant, secure and much more effective ways to keep spam bots, nasty scripts and even malicious users away, and reCaptcha does not figure anywhere on this list for an organisation of this size.

To hash or not to hash

We are going to get a little technical here for the last bit, so turn away now if you must. Based on the minified javascript we went through on the CIMB Clicks site, we are fairly certain that post 18th November, the passwords are now stored in a one way hash algorithm, making them quite secure in the event of any future breaches.

MORE: CIMB Clicks May Contain Serious Security Flaws [UPDATE: CIMB Responds]

However, we are now somewhat concerned on how the passwords were stored before November 18th. There are generally two ways that passwords are usually stored on the backend databases of any systems (we say two, because we are hoping to God that it isn’t stored in plaintext). It could have been encrypted, or it could have been hashed.

What CIMB Malaysia has not told you, but should
Now the good thing about hashed passwords is, even without a salt value, i

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